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		<title>Azure&#8217;s Service Bus and EnergyNet (PDC Day 0)</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2009/11/17/114/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Day 0 of Microsoft PDC, I attended the Software in the Energy Economy workshop. Much to my surprise (and disappointment), we didn&#8217;t talk about energy for the entire first half of the workshop. Instead, it was about Azure&#8217;s Service Bus. BAD Microsoft!! It was explained to us by Juval Lowy that he wanted to [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Going to PDC 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2009/08/23/73/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I got the thumbs up that I&#8217;m being sent to PDC 2009 by my company! I planned on going whether I was sent or not but it&#8217;s nice to not have to foot the bill out of my own pocket this year. In 2005 I was lucky enough that my company covered airfare and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>How to identify the user your ASP.NET app uses to authenticate as</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2009/04/09/46/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently asked how to identify the user your ASP.NET application uses to authenticate as. This can be a simple question or a bit more involved. Let&#8217;s start with the simple answers first. Default Accounts: Windows XP, Windows 2000, and earlier (you should NOT be caring about earlier!): ASPNET &#8211; this is created automatically [...]]]></description>
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		<title>New Indy ALT.NET Site is up</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2009/01/09/37/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We now have a newly revamped Indy ALT.NET site up and online! While we&#8217;re not completely done with it, we are far enough along to go ahead and turn it on for the time being. Very soon we will be filling out some of the interactive portions but for now it is fast and has [...]]]></description>
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		<title>IndyTechFest registration is now open!</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/08/22/33/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/08/22/33/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[IndyTechFest registration is now open! This year there is a limit of 500 registrations (I believe last year&#8217;s was like 400 and it was booked up within just a couple weeks). So I strongly encourage you to register sooner rather than later! There is a great lineup of speakers and sessions at this year&#8217;s IndyTechFest! [...]]]></description>
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		<title>inkubook</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/07/27/31/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend and colleague of mine, Eric Willeke, has helped lead a team to create and deploy an interesting new site at www.inkubook.com where an ordinary person can take the pictures they have taken with their digital camera and make a simple and professional-looking bound photo book based on them. Erik has posted a bit [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Indy Invades CinArc!!</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/07/10/29/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Tuesday (July 8, 2008) evening, Sasha Kotlyar, Dean Weber, and I made a spontaneous trip to Cincinnati to check out the CinArc group (not to be confused with this CinARC). This group is Cincinnati&#8217;s Architecture User Group and seems to be mostly .NET-based. They are a very new group as this was only their [...]]]></description>
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		<title>What is ALT.NET?</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/04/27/24/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/04/27/24/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jaxidian.org/update/?p=24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[When we were discussing the Indy ALT.NET group&#8217;s goals with others, we were asked, &#8220;How are you going to distinguish Indy ALT.NET from the Indy .NET User Group?&#8221; This was a GREAT question! In coming up with that answer, I&#8217;ve mulled around and tried to come up with a definition for ALT.NET. There are plenty [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Indy Code Camp was fun!</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/04/26/23/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indy Code Camp is in its last session now. It was quite fun! Personally, I really wish Indianapolis would have more events like this! This city is really starved for community software development events, at least applicable to .NET developers. Despite the slumping economy world-wide, the market in Indy is really good for .NET developers, [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Speed up .NET Compact Framework compile time by a LOT!</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/04/25/22/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jaxidian.org/update/?p=22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I was complaining on Twitter about the long time it takes to compile a Compact Framework application and Steve Schoon informed me of a hack you can do to DRASTICALLY speed up the time it takes to compile! You can get the details here. Read the entire thing so you are aware of what you&#8217;re [...]]]></description>
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		<title>IndyALT.NET Site is live!</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/04/23/21/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[IndyALT.NET is now live! Right now it&#8217;s being hosted in somebody&#8217;s house (thx to Paul Hacker, MSMVP, for sharing his servers temporarily!) We&#8217;re excited about our first two events! Next month we&#8217;re having Mike Griffin come in for some training on the EntitySpaces OR Mapper. In July we are planning on having Todd Anglin come [...]]]></description>
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		<title>DataAdapters and ReadXML / WriteXML</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/02/29/18/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am working on a project that contains nearly identical clients (same basic featuresets, different UI) in very different environments (Winforms, Mobile, and Web). The biggest difference is that the web sites (one client-equiv site, one admin site, and a set of web services) contains some additional functionality. I&#8217;ve architected this to maximize the amount [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Automatic Generation of API Documentation for .NET 2.0 Code</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/01/04/15/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2008/01/04/15/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently given the task to generate some API documentation for all of the code on a project I was working on (11 different projects, 3 different solutions) so I began looking into what was available. I remember using NDoc with old 1.1 projects, but that project was apparently abandanded. Microsoft has an October [...]]]></description>
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		<title>VS2005 Deployment Projects install new version with old version&#8217;s custom action assemblies</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/10/15/13/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/10/15/13/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m working on a project where we use Deployment Projects to deploy our public application. We&#8217;re still in beta phase so we don&#8217;t have a huge number of releases under our belt yet but so far things have been going pretty well (well, at least since we&#8217;ve gotten past the initial hurdles in getting our [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Debugging Visual Studio 2005 ASP.NET apps on Vista Home Premium</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/10/10/11/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/10/10/11/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you have an ASP.NET app hosted by IIS7 on any Vista Home edition (though I&#8217;ve only used Home Premium), it fails because Vista Home Premium lacks Windows Authentication. Fortunately, Microsoft is aware of this and has issued a fix. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s not part of Windows Updates so you&#8217;ll have to go get it yourself. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Visual Studio 2005 Deployment Projects on Vista &#8211; Error #2869</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/07/13/10/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/07/13/10/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found this blog posting that finally solved a problem that was by no means obvious to me! http://msmvps.com/blogs/kevinmcneish/archive/2007/05/09/fixing-the-cre&#8230;]]></description>
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		<title>.NET 2.0 Simultaneous Web Service Calls give &#8220;The request was aborted: The request was canceled.&#8221; error</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/05/05/8/</link>
		<comments>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/05/05/8/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/05/05/8/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been having web requests just randomly fail with an error message of &#8220;The request was aborted: The request was canceled.&#8221; Simple testing would never produce this result yet real-world use and stress testing would indeed cause this problem. If you Google it and you&#8217;ll find many other people with this exact same problem. But [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Losing connections due to ADO.NET bug using Transactions</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/04/06/7/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Environment: ASP.NET 2.0/C#/SQL Server 2005 (SP1 on live servers and SP2 on some development and test servers) So we&#8217;ve been developing an application for many months and finally went live with it. Once going live, seemingly randomly we started getting the following problem: Fill: SelectCommand.Connection property has not been initialized. Exception Details: System.InvalidOperationException: Fill: SelectCommand.Connection [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Access ASP.NET Validators from JavaScript</title>
		<link>http://www.jaxidian.org/update/2007/04/05/6/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I needed to access clientside validators from JavaScript in order to determine if the page was valid or not. Turns out MSDN tells you how if you dig deep enough. You have two options: Access a global flag that essentially loops through all validators Check each validator, one at a time #1 is the easy [...]]]></description>
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		<title>ASP.NET 2.0 &#8211; SqlDataSource and GUID / UNIQUEIDENTIFIER fields</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shane Milton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I ran into a pretty ugly bug in ASP.NET 2.0.50727 (i.e. .NET 2.0 RTM). Imagine you&#8217;re using the freebie .NET 2.0 Membership stuff and you would like to list all Roles that the currently-logged-in user is associated with and you&#8217;d like to use a GridView to do so. So imagine you create a stored [...]]]></description>
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